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Re: Mortal & divine Law

Post by DaveJ » 27 Sep 2018, 21:44

It feel to me that it people putting public perception and desire to look right ahead of guidance of Gods that caused much this trouble. I hope learnt.

And example not really address question of conflict law and sins, law not require Primate step down yet and churches perfectly capable remove leader whatever items he have if wish.

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Re: Mortal & divine Law

Post by ShaunL » 27 Sep 2018, 22:18

Mike P BL8 wrote:
27 Sep 2018, 19:41
Good day Mr Lowlife, first I would like to say when addressing someone it is polite to get their name right. Its just good manners.

To address your point it is everyones concern when the head of a faith is convicted and branded for a crime. It damages our relations with our allies and sows mistrust among the people which is ultimately damaging to everyone.

It is a dangerous precedent to make branded criminals socially acceptable
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Lowlife fort that da whole fing about hooman just-is woz that afta you haz been punished dat waz an end to it. If you beleev dat peeple is just as likely to be criminals after you hav punished dem, why you even do it?

But den, Lowlife not law-person. Hooman laws seem very odd to Lowlife, as it seem liek you can be found gilty of crime dat not even a crime when you did it.

Ennyway, Lowlife fink maybe you let da members of da churches run da churches, and let da members of your guild wotevva it is run da guild.
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Re: Mortal & divine Law

Post by paul_austin » 28 Sep 2018, 02:13

Phil R wrote:
27 Sep 2018, 19:07
The negative reputations of leaders reflect upon those that follow them as much as the positive ones. Soldiers who follow a general who is branded thief would be perceived as endorsing their leader and supporting their actions and in doing so give the impression that being a branded thief was socially acceptable.

To put it simply they would be tarred with same brush. It is the fear of this that followers would turn from their leader.

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Re: Mortal & divine Law

Post by Phil R » 28 Sep 2018, 09:28

Indeed it would Enchanter Blanchard, but the social stigma to the uniformed masses would remain and they would forever bear the mark of their crime. It wold act as a reminder to them as well as everyone they met as to their social standing as a convicted murderer.

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Re: Mortal & divine Law

Post by Maggsy19991 » 28 Sep 2018, 11:35

The former Seneschal, Knight Marshal Sir Acolon, had a brand upon his cheek.

Are you suggesting the Templar Order in its entirety decided to follow suit? Are you suggesting that, due to such a brand, he was not fit to lead?

It was thanks to the actions of Sir Acolon that a great deal of information was shared between the other chapters of the Order and necessary preparations could be made before the invasions earlier this year.

But let's focus purely on the fact he had a murder brand on his cheek, shall we?
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Re: Mortal & divine Law

Post by Phil R » 28 Sep 2018, 13:11

The templar order is awash with criminals and foolspawn, as for many the order saves them from being put to death for their criminal acts. They devote their lives to Sidhe and in that act aim to put others before themselves.

The populace know this and accept it so that it is not unusual. A primate convicted of blasphemy or heresy would not be so readily accepted and would seed distrust or confusion to the ill informed masses.

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Re: Mortal & divine Law

Post by xmas001 » 28 Sep 2018, 15:49

To simply answer this question, a church can vote a primate out if they wish its as simple as that, only adventuring members can vote I there might be a restriction as to who can vote such as priests only. this means that if the adventuring members think a primate should stay and vote it that way then they will stay regardless of any public opinions.
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Re: Mortal & divine Law

Post by Mike P BL8 » 28 Sep 2018, 17:42

xmas001 wrote:
28 Sep 2018, 15:49
To simply answer this question, a church can vote a primate out if they wish its as simple as that, only adventuring members can vote I there might be a restriction as to who can vote such as priests only. this means that if the adventuring members think a primate should stay and vote it that way then they will stay regardless of any public opinions.
Is this not damaging the churches reputation? Is this not blasphemy?
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Re: Mortal & divine Law

Post by xmas001 » 28 Sep 2018, 19:21

Mr meetshack, is what damaging and blasphemy?
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Re: Mortal & divine Law

Post by Mike P BL8 » 28 Sep 2018, 20:18

If they stay in position regardless of public opinion
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